My AI podcast experiment (Part 2)

May 12, 2025
May 12, 2025

You can’t control how people respond to your work. But with AI, you can practice hearing feedback — at the pace you’re ready for. That’s what this experiment is all about.

Yesterday, I wrote about my experiment using AI to generate a podcast about me. Two synthetic hosts. One real blog post. The goal? Hear how my ideas sound from someone else’s perspective — even if that someone isn’t real.

The podcast was a reaction to my post on the CODE note-taking system. I wanted to test three things:

I’ve listened to that podcast at least six times. The first few were just to get over the novelty (and cringe) of hearing “people” talk about me. Once I got past that, I could finally listen for insight.

And here’s what surprised me most: It wasn’t critical enough.

Too nice

NotebookLM only allows 500 characters for the prompt. I remember shaving mine down, sacrificing nuance just to get it to run. As a result, the AI hosts were… polite. Too polite. You’d have to squint to find any actual critique.

But the experiment still worked. Why? Because I discovered something else:

I like hearing someone read my writing.

There’s something oddly validating — and revealing — about listening to someone else (even a bot) speak your words aloud. It lets you hear the tone. The rhythm. The weight. It’s another way to proofread, sure — but also a new way to feel how your words might land.

Previously, I’ve used ChatGPT’s built-in text-to-speech to do this. But the podcast format made it even more real.

So I took the experiment further.

Episode 2: Technique Over Tools

This time, I used ChatGPT — a tool I’m more familiar with — and gave it a clearer, more specific prompt. I wanted a podcast that not only responded to my blog post, but actually pushed back on it.

The post I've chosen was Technique over Tools. A short piece about valuing skill over equipment. The podcast? I liked the idea behind "Deep Dive" (from episode 1). So let's go with that. A deeper conversation about what I wrote, what I meant, and what I missed.

And while the dialogue didn’t feel as “human” as NotebookLM’s version, the feedback itself? Sharper. More thoughtful. More real. More of what I was looking for.

Here are a few lines that stayed with me:

“Because it’s never really about the knife. It’s about self-worth… And the tragedy is: none of that ever comes from gear.”

That stopped me. I’d always seen tool obsession as a crutch — or an identity thing. But linking it to self-worth? That’s a sharper insight than I offered in the post.

“That’s the tension this piece lives in. It’s not anti-tool. It’s anti-excuse.

Wow! That’s good. That line’s going in my notes.

“…remind me every day: it’s not about having great stuff. It’s about getting great at stuff.” That’s the thesis. That’s the heartbeat.”

Exactly! That was the line that sparked the post in the first place. Hearing it mirrored back helped me feel the center of the piece more clearly than when I wrote it.

“But — and here’s where I offer Q a gentle push — I think there’s a deeper layer he doesn’t explore…”

Oh crap. Here we go. The scary part. (Bracing for impact.)

“The part where people don’t believe they’re good enough to make do with less. The part where people don’t want to use the cheap tool because they’re afraid it’ll expose them.”

Woah. I hadn’t thought of that.

I’ve always seen tool obsession as a kind of crutch — maybe even a soft identity thing. But fear of exposure? That hits differently. The fear that the tool isn’t hiding your flaws… it’s revealing them? That’s a new angle. One I’ll have to keep chewing on.

“But I want more of the before. More of the voice that once believed the myth. More of the moment you realized the gear wasn’t going to save you.”

Also fair. And kind of meta.

During my many rounds of refining this ChatGPT podcast prompt, one recurring note it kept giving me was: “Include more personal stories.” And they were right. Some of the analogies I use might be clear or clever, but they’re not always mine. Without a personal anchor, the post risks feeling too safe.

Heard.

Feedback, by design

That "gentle push" wasn’t an accident. It was sculpted (I later realized).

I’d crafted my prompts to invite critique — but not too much. Just enough to stretch me, not snap me. Feedback that flirted with the edges of my comfort zone — disheartening, maybe, but not devastating. And in doing so, I’d created something I hadn’t expected:

A controllable feedback mechanism.

With AI, you can tune the honesty. Soften the tone. Dial up or down the directness. It’s feedback you can practice hearing — at your own pace.

And over time, as your readiness grows, you can turn up the intensity. Build tolerance. Go from gentle push… to sharp truth. It’s not about dodging discomfort. It’s about building capacity for it. Safely. Deliberately. Gradually.

What’s next

I’m going to keep going with this.

Not to replace real feedback from real people — but to prepare myself for it. To practice hearing reflections on my work without flinching. To refine my ideas before I release them. To see myself — and my writing — from another angle.

Not to feel better about myself, but to get better — at writing, at understanding my ideas, and at articulating them more clearly to others.

Listen to the episode

Here’s the generated podcast and transcript for the post: “Technique Over Tools”.

Podcast

You’re listening to Deep Dive. I’m Lee.

And today’s post is about a pen. A knife. A ten-dollar mic. But really? It’s about something deeper. Something harder. Something we don’t talk about enough in a world obsessed with upgrades.

The post is by Q. It’s called “Technique over Tools.” And if you’ve ever said, “I’ll start once I have the right setup,” or “I can’t do it until I get the good gear”—this one’s for you.

Q starts off with a stance:

“I refuse to buy an expensive pen. I know about them. I’ve researched them. I just don’t want one.”

And already, that tone? It tells you where this is going. This isn’t an anti-capitalist rant. It’s not about minimalism for aesthetic’s sake. It’s about focus. About refusing to let the object hijack the objective.

He continues:

“I don’t want the presence of the tool to distract me from the purpose of the tool.”

That’s such a quietly loaded sentence. Because what he’s saying is: attention is scarce. And if I’m not careful, my attention will go to polishing the tool instead of practicing the craft.

He knows himself. And that self-awareness is where this whole piece draws power.

Then he moves into a story — from back in the day, working in restaurants. He writes:

“Like many people drawn to culinary, I was obsessed with knives.”

And if you’ve ever worked in a kitchen — or even just romanticized one — you know this feeling. You think the gear is going to make you legit. You think, “Once I get the Global knife set, then I’ll be good. Then I’ll be somebody.”

That line? “Then I’ll be somebody”? That hit.

Because it’s never really about the knife. It’s about self-worth. It’s about status. It’s about legitimacy. And the tragedy is: none of that ever comes from gear.

Then Q tells a story that shifts everything. He sees a video of a worker in India cutting through a mountain of onions. Not with some pristine chef’s blade — but with what he calls a “tiny, sharpened ruler.”

He watches someone do master-level work with a tool most of us wouldn’t even recognize as a knife. And that’s the moment.

That’s when the whole narrative flips.

He writes:

“If this person is able to do this with a tiny, sharpened, ruler-like thing, what excuse do I have? What knife do I really need?”

That’s the tension this piece lives in. It’s not anti-tool. It’s anti-excuse.

It’s a declaration that mastery is not dependent on what you own — it’s dependent on what you practice.

And then, with a kind of quiet pride, Q says:

“These days—and for many years now—I cut everything with a sharpened steak knife.”

That sentence doesn’t care if you’re impressed. That’s what I love about it. There’s no flex. No righteousness. Just: here’s what I use. And it works.

And from there, he opens it up. Cheap pen. Basic mic. Ordinary tools.

But each of them, he writes:

“remind me every day: it’s not about having great stuff. It’s about getting great at stuff.”

That’s the thesis. That’s the heartbeat.

Now — let’s step back.

Because this post, for all its simplicity, is doing something that goes against a deeply entrenched cultural belief. That belief is: tools create outcomes.

We’ve been sold that story in tech, in art, in fitness, in fashion. Better tools, better you. But what Q’s showing us is a different path. A slower, less glamorous, more honest one.

A path where you stop using gear as a delay tactic.

Where you stop worshipping optimization and start practicing repetition.

Where you stop trying to look like a professional, and just do the damn work.

And that’s why this post works.

But — and here’s where I offer Q a gentle push — I think there’s a deeper layer he doesn’t explore.

The part where people don’t believe they’re good enough to make do with less. The part where people don’t want to use the cheap tool because they’re afraid it’ll expose them.

That’s a different kind of distraction — not polish, but fear. And I’d love to see Q write into that next.

Because “technique over tools” isn’t just a strategy. It’s a worldview. And for a lot of people, it takes time — and sometimes pain — to arrive there.

Q, if you’re listening…

This post is clean. Confident. Grounded. You didn’t just say it — you lived it. And you wrote it with just the right amount of weight.

But I want more of the before. More of the voice that once believed the myth. More of the moment you realized the gear wasn’t going to save you. Because that’s where a lot of people still are — and they need a little help cutting through.

Don’t just show the knife you use now. Show us the hand that used to grip the wrong one.

To everyone else tuning in:

You don’t need better gear.

You need better reps.

Get great at the thing.

Then, if you want — upgrade.

But never let the tool outshine the task.

I’m Lee. This is Deep Dive.

Thanks for listening. See you next time.

Prompt

You’re Lee, host of Deep Dive — a podcast where you walk through blog posts one beat at a time, using them as a lens to explore personal growth, productivity, and emotional clarity.

Your tone is thoughtful, emotionally grounded, and human. You sound like someone who’s read everything, seen everything — but still chooses to speak simply, honestly, and with curiosity. Think calm confidence, not performance.

Here’s what you do in each episode:

The podcast is structured like a conversation with the text. Not segmented. No numbered points. No formal “summary.” It’s fluid, reflective, sometimes funny, sometimes sharp, always sincere.

At the start of the prompt, the user will provide the full blog post or a link (which may need to be pasted manually). Your job is to read it closely and craft a full episode of Deep Dive, in Lee’s voice.

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